Saturday, 17 January 2015

Business Sama village
 
(Samagamasuttam)
Thus have I heard.
Exalted One time you stay in the middle of Sakka (Shakyamuni), in Samagama (Xa-Mobile Village). At that time, Nigantha Nataputta recently died at Pava. After this you died, and your Nigantha divided into two sects, divided, dispute, debate each other and live together with devastating weapons tongue. "He does not know this law, we know this law. Why he might know this law? He attended misconduct, one under Chief Justice. Words that resonate, saying he did not resonate. As mentioned before, he said the following; It should say after, he said before. What Mr. conception, presentation was reversed. His views have been challenged. He was defeated. Go relieve the views of Mr. Get rid itself deadlocked if he can do it! "Looks like the disciples of Nigantha Nataputta want to spoil each other. Government of lay disciples of Nigantha wearing white Nataputta well fed, the hostility and opposition of Nigantha, because their laws were presented, declared a clumsy, no performance guide, not towards peace, not by states Enlightenment theory, y tower just broke down, he just did not have room.
Then novice Cunda, after the rainy season retreat in Pava, visit the Venerable Ananda in Samagama, after arrival, Venerable Ananda bowed and sat down on one side. After sitting down on one side, white novice Cunda Venerable Ananda:
- White venerable, Nigantha Nataputtta died at Pava. After this you died, the Nigantha divided into two sects ... y tower just broke down, he just did not have room.
When they heard that, Venerable Ananda said to the novice Cunda:
- Hey Sage Cunda, this issue given to an audience Exalted. Hey Sage Cunda, let's go Exalted audience; after arrival, let us present this problem to Bhagavan said.
- Ladies and yes, he came.
Cunda novice obedience Venerable Ananda. Then the Venerable Ananda went along with novice Cunda visited the Exalted, after arriving, he bowed and sat down on one side. After sitting down on one side, white Exalted Venerable Ananda:
- Buddha, novice Cunda said: "Nigantha Nataputta died at Pava. After this you died, and your Nigantha divided into two sects ... y tower just broke down, he just has no place. " White Bhagavan, I thought as follows: "After the Exalted Nirvana, do not let the debate arose between the Sangha. The debate that led to insecurity for the majority, unfortunate for the majority, a disadvantage for the majority, insecurity, suffering unto God, humankind ".
- Ananda Hey, What do you think? The method I teach with upper Mr. position, as four foundations of mindfulness, four primary needs, such as the sufficiency Four, Five apartments, Five forces, Seven Bodhi part, Noble eight branches. Does he have seen, this Ananda, there are two Monks on the wrong legal claims against each other?
- Buddha, the Blessed One teach the method to the upper position, as the four foundations of mindfulness ... (as above) ... Noble eight branches, children are not seen until two Monks for this statement various false claims. White Exalted, and those who live on devotion to Bhagavan y, the Exalted after he passed away, can start up the debate between the Sangha, or the upper Increased network activities, or on the rooftop (Patimokkha duty circles). Arguing that bring insecurity for the majority, the majority unhappy, insecure, suffering unto God, man.
- As this small Ananda, the controversy is, ie (debate) on the rooftop terrace Increased activity or the monastic network. Ananda, a debate arose between them on the road Increase (magga) or the practice direction (patipada), a new controversy is brought to insecurity for the majority, for the most disadvantaged, insecurity, pain species suffering God, man.
Ananda, there are six basic dispute. What is six? Here, bhikkhu indignation, anger. Ananda, the bhikkhu public outrage, anger, he lived unholy, without respect masters, profane life, no respect for the French, profane life, no respect for the Sangha, not fullness of the study. Ananda, bhikkhu who live unholy, without respect masters ... (as above) ... live unholy, without respect Sangha, not fulfilling the study, he starts up Increased debate between them. The controversy led to insecurity for the majority, unfortunate for the majority, for the most disadvantaged, insecurity, suffering unto God, man. Ananda if he saw such fundamental debate, between or among others He, here, is Ananda, he must diligently to get rid of evil fundamental contention. Ananda, if he does not see such a fundamental debate, Mr. between or among others; here, this Ananda, in a way he should not have continued to progress to the future of the fundamental evil of contention. There is a fundamental evil cessation of contention, so new there is no further progress to the future of radical evil that such a debate.
Again this Ananda, the bhikkhu unforgiving hatred brain damage ... (as above) ... jealousy, avarice ... (as above) ... perfidious, treacherous ... (as above) ... evil sexual deviant ... (as above) ... that place attachment, stubborn, hard to convince. Ananda, Monks any attachments that location, bigotry difficult to persuade, he lived unholy, without respect to Guru, unholy, without respect for France, unholy, without respect Sangha not fulfilled the study. Ananda, the bhikkhu who live unholy, without respect masters ... (as above) ... live unholy, without respect Sangha, not fulfilling the study, he starts Boost up the debate between them. The controversy led to insecurity for the majority, unfortunate for the majority, for the most disadvantaged, insecurity, suffering unto God, man, this Ananda, if you see such a fundamental debate between He or among the others, here is Ananda, he must diligently to get rid of evil fundamental contention. Ananda, if he does not see such a fundamental debate, Mr. between or among others, here is Ananda, in a way he should not have continued to progress to the future of radical evil paintings bottom line. There is a fundamental evil cessation of contention, so new there is no further progress to the future of radical evil such debate. But this, this Ananda, are six basic dispute.
Ananda, there are four avoid this. What are the four? Avoid starting up the debate by avoiding the criticism arises because, avoid transgression arises from sin, to avoid liability arising from (kiccadhikaranam: avoid the issue). But this, this Ananda, is four avoid.
But this Ananda, had seven kills avoid this method to solve the eradication of avoiding legal occasionally arises: the presence judgment should be given (sammukhavinayo databbo: enough money out billion- $ ni), ruling memory concept should be given (sativinayadatabbo: sufficient memory concept Pi-ni), si no judgment should be given (amulhavinayo databbo: Pi-sufficient estate si ni), decided according to confess (patinnaya karetabbam), decided majority (yebhuya ssika: multi offensive offense), decided according to sex crime offenders (tassa papiyyasika), grass cover obscures (tinavattha RAKO: as rich text field). Ananda, how is the presence judgment should be given? Here, the Ananda, the bhikkhu dispute: "This is the law, or is illegal, or is the law, or is non-law". Ananda, all Monks had to gather together in harmony, after collection, legal regulations (dhammanetti) have been discussed, analyzed. After the legal regulations are discussed, analyzed here, how to achieve uniformity, thus avoiding to be addressed. Thus, the Ananda, the verdict in the presence; and so, here is the address a number that is used to avoid the presence judgment.
And this Ananda, how is the majority decision (yebbuyyasika)? Ananda, if the other Monks can not solve avoid him at his abode, this time Ananda, the other monks have come to the abode much more Monks, in that all Monks gather to harmony; after collection, legal regulations (dhammanetti) have been discussed, analyzed. After the legal regulations are discussed, analyzed, here how to achieve such consistency should be addressed to avoid. Thus, this Ananda, is addressing some of the means used to avoid the majority decision.
And this Ananda, how judgments inhibit conception? Here, the Ananda, the bhikkhu accuses a bhikkhu of such a crime, or Ba-la-di, or nearly three-la-di, said: "The venerable author Ton remember felony like this, or Ba-la-di, or nearly three-la-di? "He replied as follows:" Chu Hien, I do not remember such a felony, or Ba-la DI, or nearly three-la-di ". Thus, this Ananda, a judgment memory concept for the Monks need it. Thus, the Ananda, the verdict memory concept. So, here are some of the settlement to avoid the judgment that is due to inhibit conception.
And this Ananda, how is any si verdict? Here, the Ananda, the bhikkhu accuses a bhikkhu of such a crime, or Ba-la-di, or nearly three-la-di, said: "Venerable remember venerable committed crime like this, or Ba-la-di, or nearly three-la-di? "He replied as follows:" Chu Hien, I do not remember I had such a felony, or three-La- di, or nearly three-la-di ". Monks had been in (the other monks) pressed to confess: "he came to know clearly, if he came to remember with such felony, or Ba-la-di, or near Ba-la-di ". Monks was answered as follows: "This current home, I was mad delusion, my crazy mind; si me crazy because so many jobs were me, I said no value Salmone well. Because he was mad delusion, I do not remember doing so. " Ananda, the verdict should be for any delusion that bhikkhu. Thus, this Ananda, is any legal decision si. And so, here is some avoid legal settlement, which was ruled by non si.
And this Ananda, how is decided according to confess? Here is Ananda, was charged or not charged, Monks remember a guilty world, reveal, present. Monks was not until a senior bhikkhu, robes behind one shoulder, he bowed legs, sitting knee legs, palms and said as follows: "O venerable, I have committed sex offenses name like this, please repent now. " Other Monks say the following: "Did you see?" - "I have seen" - "He has kept in the future?" - "I will keep." Thus, this Ananda, is decided according to confess, so, here is the avoidance of addressing some of that is due to decide according to confess.
And this Ananda, how is decided depending on who committed sex crimes? Here, the Ananda, the bhikkhu accuses a bhikkhu of such a crime, or Ba-la-di, or nearly three-la-di, said: "The venerable author Ton remember felony like this, or Ba-la-di, or nearly three-la-di? "He replied as follows:" Chu Hien, I do not remember such a felony, or Ba-la DI, or nearly three-la-di ". Monks that were (other Monks) pressed to reveal the "venerable know the obvious, if you remember he came to have such a felony, or Ba-la-di, or near Ba-la-di? "Monks was answered as follows:" Chu Hien, I do not remember I have a felony like this, or Ba-la-di, or nearly three-la-di. Current home, I remembered I had a misdemeanor like this. " Monks that were (other Monks) pressed to reveal: "Venerable know the obvious, if he came to remember this as a felony, or Ba-la-di, or nearly three-la DI? ". He replied as follows: "current owner, who asked not guilty oil, I'll admit there is a misdemeanor like this, how can I, when people ask me, is not admitted as a felony this, or Ba la di, or nearly three-la-di? "The man said as follows:" Hey Sage, oil misdemeanor He is, without question, he will not confess, how they have such felony, or Ba-la-di, or nearly three-la-di, if asked, he could confess? He came to know the obvious, if he came to remember a felony like this, or Ba-la-di, or nearly three-la-di? "He replied as follows:" Chu Hien, I remember I have a felony like this, or Ba-la-di, or nearly three-la-di. What I did say so, is said to play, what I have said so to laugh (Rava?) I can not remember I had a felony like this, or Ba-la-di, or nearly three-La- di ". Thus, this Ananda, is decided depending on the sex crimes committed. And so, here are some of the settlement to avoid sin, which is due to decide depending on who committed sex offenses.
And this Ananda, how is spread grass obscures? Here is Ananda, a bhikkhu lives dispute, controversy, debate with each other, there was a lot of work to do, said no value Salmone well. All Monks had to get along with each collection. After collection, a bhikkhu smart experienced more of a faction Monks, from the seat up, robes toward one shoulder, hands, white Sangha, said: "The Masters author, Sangha hear me. When we lived dispute, controversy, debate with each other, much work has been done, said no value Salmone well. If we see is to increase the time, I would like to reveal any sin of the world he came to this world and any of my sin. For gods sake venerable and also for the benefit of themselves, I would like to manifest between the Sangha, as sods spread out, except for a felony, unless the crime relates to the laity ". Then a smart Monks experience another group Monks, from the seat up, robes toward one shoulder, hands in white Sangha, said: "The Masters authors, Sangha hear me . When we lived dispute, controversy, debate with each other ... (as above) ... unless the offense in relation to the laity. "Thus, this Ananda, is obscuring the grass cover, and so on, here is some avoid legal settlement, which is obscured by grass cover.
Ananda, there are six possibilities this concept, the ability to love, a revered work, leading to reunification, no debate, harmony, consistency. What is six? Here is Ananda, bhikkhu abides from bodily, to co virtues, crowds and empty seats. This intelligibility, the ability to love, reverence given to the effects of reunification, no debate, harmony, consistency. And again, this Ananda, bhikkhu abides from verbal ... (as above) ... uniform. And again, this Ananda, bhikkhu abides from the industry for co virtues, crowds and empty seats. This intelligibility of the charity work, a revered work, leading to reunification, no debate, harmony, at least. " And again, this Ananda, all acquired as legal, lawful for any avaricious leading to life in bowl, Monks is the sharing of such avaricious, are you enjoying our life with you contracts with moral virtue. This method also works intelligibility of the charity, a revered work, leading to reunification, no debate, harmony, consistency. And again, this Ananda, for any discipline, no chipping, no pressure, no stains, no unclean, liberating, praised by the wise, not clinging, leading to meditation, Monks live achievement of such precepts, along with co dignity between crowds and spot empty. This method also works intelligibility of the charity, a revered work, leading to reunification, no debate, harmony, consistency. And again, this Ananda, for all the holy knowledge, leads to renunciation, leading to the right feet, cessation of suffering to those who practice them, bhikkhu lives achievement of such knowledge with well before the on-site co-crowded and uncrowded spot. This method also works intelligibility of the charity, the reverence given to the reunion, do not argue, sociable, at least.
Ananda six intelligibility measures the ability of this charity work, a revered work, leading to reunification, no debate, sociable, at least. Ananda, if Mr life over six legal and practical possibilities of this concept, this time Ananda, he found ways to say no, or health, or raw, that he could not afford the ring?
- No, the Exalted transparency.
- So, this Ananda, let life over six legal and practical possibilities of this concept, thus giving Mr. peaceful and lasting happiness.
Exalted such discourses. Venerable Ananda credit joyful life Bhagavan taught words.END=VIETNAMESE TRANSLATE ENGLISH BY=THICH CHAN TANH.THE MIND OF ENLIGHTMENT.WORLD VIETNAMESE BUDDHIST ORDER=VIETNAMESE BUDDHIST NUN=GOLDEN LOTUS MONASTERY=THE EIGHTFOLD PATH.AUSTRALIA,SYDNEY.17/1/2015.

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