35. PRIMARY BUSINESS SACCAKA.

(Culasaccakasuttam) Thus have I heard. The Exalted One at Vesali, forest Dai Lam, in the auditorium of eggs. At that time at Vesali Saccaka Niganthaputta popular polemical nature, skillful argument, which is the majority of reverence. This position is often declared to the congregation in Vesali: "I do not see a recluse or a Brahmin does, is the Association of Home, is Hambo, chief monk of the Church, for the grade A natural oil -la-drought, Enlightenment, when dialogue with us, no one is scared, do not panic, no fear, no one is sweating armpits. Oil and have a dialogue with a pillar accidentally, pillars that when a dialogue with us tremble, also frightened, terrified and alone that an ordinary person. " Then in the morning he came to Assaji robes, bowls into Vesali for alms. Niganthaputta Saccaka, often wandering the galaxy, see the venerable Assaji travel distance. After the show, Niganthaputta immediately approached venerable Saccaka Assaji, speak the words to ask, welcome, courtesy and stood aside. After standing aside, Niganthaputta Saccaka told venerable Assaji: - This venerable Assaji, recluse Gotama disciple training like? And there are certain subjects that most recluse Gotama is teaching for the disciples? - Hey Aggivessana, like this one, Exalted disciple training. With subjects like this, the majority recluse Gotama is teaching for the disciples: "This, monks, is impermanent, feeling is impermanent, perception is impermanent, is impermanence practice, formula impermanent. This, monks, is not-self identity, life is selfless, selfless thought, selfless act is, consciousness is not self. All acts are impermanent, all is selfless approach ". This Aggivessana Thus, Bhagavan coaching disciples. Such is the discipline that most Exalted is devoted to teaching disciples. - Assaji this venerable, truly we were disappointed to hear recluse Gotama such preaching. It is likely we will see a venerable Gotama certain time and in a certain place. Chances are there will be a discussion. Very likely we will rid evil he wrong. At that time, around the five hundred Licchavi gathered in the auditorium for some public service. Then the Licchavi Niganthaputta Saccaka towards him, after arriving, he immediately said the following: - Come, the venerable Licchavis; go to the venerable Licchavis. Today there will be conversations between the recluse Gotama with me. If recluse Gotama dialogue with our standing as Assaji monks, a disciple of his reputation did, then as an athlete clutching a sheep fur with long hair, can last up to, and liking back, rhyme around; also, we are using words, getting to, and liking back, rhyme around recluse Gotama. As well as a cooking wine athletes, after engulfing a large wine barrels down deep lake, holding a corner of the tank can last up to, and liking back, rhyme around; also, we are using words, getting to, and liking back, rhyme around recluse Gotama. And like an athlete alcoholism, dissolute life, after holding a sieve corner, shaking, shaking around. Also, we will use words, shaking, shaking around recluse Gotama. And like a huge elephant sixties, after diving into a deep water lake, the water spray play; also, I think I will play games with recluses sprinkler Gotama. Come, the venerable Licchavis. Come the venerable Licchavis. Today there will be conversations between the recluse Gotama with me. Some Licchavi said as follows: - How can recluse Gotama win Niganthaputta Saccaka comment? Niganthaputta Saccaka will win recluse Gotama comment. Some Licchavi said as follows: - How just could Niganthaputta Saccaka Exalted winning argument? Bhagavan will win Niganthaputta Saccaka comment. Then with about five hundred Niganthaputta Saccaka surrounded Licchavi, go to the Great Forest, The Chongqing amphitheater. At that time a large number of monks were going back and forth between heaven. Niganthaputta Saccaka to the monks, after arriving, he immediately told: - Chu venerable, Venerable Gotama Where now? We want an audience with the venerable Gotama. - Hey Aggivessana, Bhagavan after going deep into the jungle Dai Lam, sitting under a tree to take a nap. Then with mass Niganthaputta Licchavis Saccaka, after going into the Great Forest and Forestry, to spot Bhagavan. After arriving Niganthaputta Exalted Saccaka speak with words of praise, courtesy asked and sat down on one side. Some Licchavis bowed and sat down on one side; some Licchavi speak with words of praise Bhagavan, courtesy asked and sat down on one side; some vow, Bhagavan Licchavis accept the hand and sat down on one side; some Licchavi confess his name and sat down on one side; some Licchavi silent sat to one side.  Niganthaputta Saccaka after sitting down one side told Bhagavan: - I want to ask Venerable Gotama is a problem, if Venerable Gotama allow me to ask. - Hey Aggivessana, ask as he wants. - Venerable Gotama disciple training like? The subjects that most recluse Gotama is teaching for the disciples? - Hey Aggivessana, like this I trained disciple. With this subject, I taught largely been devoted to his disciples: "This, monks, is impermanent, feeling is impermanent, perception is impermanent, operating as impermanent, consciousness is impermanent. This, monks, is not-self identity, life is selfless, selfless thought, selfless act is, consciousness is not self. All acts are impermanent, all is selfless approach ". This Aggivessana Thus, I trained practitioners. Such subjects, most of us are taught for students. - Venerable Gotama Hey, I have an example. Exalted says: - Aggivessana Hey, let's say for example that. - As the seeds, the plants are grown up, matured, is flourishing is because they are all on the ground care, rely on the land. Thus the seeds, the plants are grown up, matured, is flourishing. Venerable Gotama, as the heavy industry are artifacts, all of them are on the ground care, rely on the land. Thus, the heavy industry are artifacts. Also, this venerable Gotama, as this self is excellent, thanks to excellent refuge do good or evil of the; as this person that the self is the life, thanks to rely on the good or bad sensation as the; as this is the ideal self, thanks to the ideal refuge to do good or evil of the; as this person that the self as practices, thanks refuge acts as a good or bad is; as this person that the self is consciousness, thanks to the friendly recipes refuge or the evil. - Hey Aggivessana, so if he says: "Lust is my self, feeling is my self, my self thought, act as my self, consciousness is my self '? - Venerable Gotama, so I said: "Lust is my self, feeling is my self, my self thought, act as my self, consciousness is my self." And this mass as well. - Hey Aggivessana, this mass has nothing to do with Mr.? This Aggivessana, explain the words of Mr. - Venerable Gotama, so I said: "Lust is my self, feeling is my self, my self thought, act as my self, consciousness is my self." - Hey Aggivessana, I will ask Mr. back on this issue. He can answer if he wants. Aggivessana this, how do you think? A king-imperial-town Police did empowerments, such as King Pasenadi Kosala, the king of Magadha water Vedehi Ajatasattu her son, the king has power in his country, to kill those who deserve to be killed, stripped those who deserve to be deprived of, want to take out those who are being attacked out? - Venerable Gotama, a king-imperial-town Police did empowerments, such as King Pasenadi Kosala, King Ajatasattu, her son Vedehi Magadha country, this king have power in their country, to kill those who deserve murder, wanted to deprive anyone should be deprived, those who want to take out export is under attack. This venerable Gotama, to the congregation, the unions, which served as the, the Malla, still have power in their country, to kill those who deserve to be killed, want to deprive anyone should be deprived, those who want to take out export is under attack, and say a Sat-insole-seat king did empowerments, such as king Pasenadi Kosala, the king of Magadha water Vedehi Ajatasattu her son. This venerable Gotama, he had such a power and authority he deserves. - Aggivessana Hey, how do you think? As he says: "Lust is my self", he has excellent powerless against him and say, "My Lust like this, my identity is not like this," no? Said this was Niganthaputta Saccaka remain silent. Second, Bhagavan told Niganthaputta Saccaka: - Aggivessana Hey, how do you think? As he says: "Lust is my self", he has excellent powerless against him and say, "My Lust like this, my identity is not like this," no? - Second, Niganthaputta Saccaka remained silent. Then Bhagavan told Niganthaputta Saccaka: - Hey Aggivessana, now he must answer. He did not have time to keep silent anymore. This Aggivessana, who was Tathagata asked a third time a reasonable question without answer, the first time he will be broken into seven pieces in place. At that time the god deleted Vajirapani (Vajrapani) holding a large iron mace, glowing, shining, standing on top of Niganthaputta Saccaka nowhere with intent: "If Bhagavan asked to the third question, a Niganthaputta reasonable questions Saccaka not answer, I will beat it out tank top seven pieces ". Only Bhagavan and see god Saccaka Niganthaputta Vajirapani deleted. Niganthaputta Saccaka fear, panic, fluffy hair upside, only to find a sheltered place Bhagavan, just find a peaceful place of Bhagavan, just find refuge in the Blessed One, venerable sir instant: - Venerable Gotama ask me, I will answer. - Aggivessana Hey, how do you think? As he says: "Lust is my self", then what authority He has for her identity and say, "My Lust like this, my identity is not like this," no? - No, the Venerable Gotama. - Think carefully experience, this Aggivessana. After heuristic techniques, this Aggivessana, he just answered. His last words inappropriate His preface, foreword by Mr inappropriate His last words. Aggivessana this, how do you think? As he said: "Life is my self", he powerless against her life and speak, saying, "My Life like this, my life is not like this," does not? - No, the Venerable Gotama. - Think carefully experience, this Aggivessana. After heuristic techniques, this Aggivessana, he just answered. His last words inappropriate His preface, foreword by Mr inappropriate His last words. Aggivessana this, how do you think? As he said: "I thought that my self", he powerless against that idea and say, "My Ideas like this, my thoughts are not like this," no? - No, the Venerable Gotama. - Think carefully experience, this Aggivessana. After heuristic techniques, this Aggivessana, he just answered. His last words inappropriate His preface, foreword by Mr inappropriate His last words. Aggivessana this, how do you think? As he says: "These are my self", he powerless against his ego and say, "My practices like this, my actions are not like this," not ? - No, the Venerable Gotama. - Think carefully experience, this Aggivessana. After heuristic techniques, this Aggivessana, he just answered. His last words inappropriate His preface, foreword by Mr inappropriate His last words. Aggivessana this, how do you think? As he said: "Food is my self", he powerless against his ego and say, "My Soul to be like this, my understanding is not like this," no?  - No, the Venerable Gotama. - Think carefully experience, this Aggivessana. After heuristic techniques, this Aggivessana, he just answered. His last words inappropriate His preface, foreword by Mr inappropriate His last words. Aggivessana this, how do you think? Lust is permanent or impermanent? - Impermanence, Venerable Gotama. - What is impermanent, then that is suffering or optimistic? - As suffering, Venerable Gotama. - What is impermanent, suffering, damage variable; Does the district have the right consistency so was: "This is mine, this is mine, this is my self '? - No, the Venerable Gotama. - Aggivessana Hey, how do you think? Tho ... (as above) ... idea ... (as above) ... the practice ... (as above) ... Aggivessana Hey, how do you think? Consciousness is permanent or impermanent? - Impermanence, Venerable Gotama. - What is impermanent is suffering or optimistic? - As suffering, Venerable Gotama. - What is impermanent, suffering, damage variable; Does the district have the right consistency so was: "This is mine, this is mine, this is my self '? - No, the Venerable Gotama. - Aggivessana Hey, how do you think? He that loveth attachment size, attachment size, attachment size, format bar and said: "This is mine, this is mine, this is my self." He can put his knowledge of himself or suffering can not live unless cessation of suffering? - How can there be, Venerable Gotama? Unable so, Venerable Gotama. - Hey Aggivessana, as someone who wants to be the core tree, seek the tree cores, go here and there looking for wood pulp. He took a sharp hammer, went into the forest. He can be seen here itself a large banana tree upright, young, no burning songs. He can chop that tree. After cutting the tree, he cut treetops. After cutting the tree, he can peel off the leaves curled. But when peeling off the leaves curl up, he can not find a sense of trees, plants also says nothing to the core. This Aggivessana Also, when I asked, I questioned, I asked about the words of He, He has proved himself empty, empty, failed. But this Aggivessana, words which he declared to the congregation in Vesali: "I do not see a recluse or Brahmin does, is the Association of Home, is the Patriarch, head of the Church monk, oils can claim to rank Arhat, Enlightenment, when dialogue with me, no one is scared, do not panic, no fear, no one is not sweating armpits. Oil We have a dialogue with an accidental pillars, pillars that the dialogue with us tremble, also frightened, terrified and alone that an ordinary person. " But it was from His forehead, this one often. But it was from his forehead, this Aggivessana, the sweat running down, after permeable upper robe, falling to the ground. As for me, this Aggivessana, this is no sweat on my body. Then Bhagavan to expose the needle for congregation sees itself. When they heard that, Niganthaputta Saccaka silence, shame, indenting the shoulder, bowed, sat stunned, not saying a word. Then Dummukha, a Licchavi son, know Niganthaputta Saccaka silence, shame, indenting the shoulder, bowed, sat stunned, not saying a word, immediately venerable sir: - Buddha, I have an example. Exalted says: - Dummukha Hey, let's say for example that. - Buddha, like a lotus pond not far from the village or town many, there has crabs. Buddha, then a majority of the son or daughter going out of his village or town, to the other at the lotus pond, after arriving, she began diving into the lake crab up and put it on dry land. Buddha, as this crab claws sticking out, even so the son or daughter was, with a stick or piece of crockery, cut, broken and smashed his claws. Thus, venerable sir, crabs were cut and broken, was smashed all the more, to wade into the lake was like before. Likewise, venerable sir, every single theory, design time, debate has been Exalted Saccaka Niganthaputta severed, broken, smashed. And now, venerable sir, Niganthaputta Saccaka, unable to see Bhagavan, do not say is intended discourse. When they heard that, Niganthaputta Saccaka told Licchavis Dummukha: - He should stop talking, Dummukha! He should stop talking, Dummukha! We have no conversation with Mr. We're conversation with the Venerable Gotama. Venerable Gotama, let alone our words and the words of the recluse, another Brahmin. I think this conversation is worth vain regrets! Up to what extent, a disciple of Venerable Gotama Sravakas become compliant liturgical texts, accept instruction, suspected to be the exception, been hesitant cessation, achievements fearless, living in the church Duty Counsel , from having to rely on anyone? - Here, this Aggivessana, Sravakas My disciples, for any material, past, future, present, internal or external, gross or subtle, inferior and superior, far or near, seeing as it's the main wisdom is: "this is not mine, this is not me, this is not my self." For every feeling ... for all ... for all operating concept ... for everything, past, future, present, internal or external, gross or subtle, inferior and superior, far or near, seeing as it's the chief's wisdom: "this is not mine, this is not me, this is not my self." Until such a degree, this Aggivessana, a disciple of Ta Thanh documents become compliant liturgical texts, accept instruction, suspected to be the exception, been hesitant cessation, achievements fearless, living in the church Duty counsel, from having to rely on someone. - To some extent, this venerable Gotama, monks are level Arhat, taints took advantage, the chronic practice, the thing to do was to do, laid down the burden, the target reach, organic fetters were rid of, be freed right knowledge? - Here, this Aggivessana, monks against any of matter, past, future, present, internal or external, gross or subtle, inferior and superior, far or near, all the material, after as real as the chief intellectual observation: "this is not mine, this is not me, this is not my self," is very clinging witness liberation. For anyone feeling any ... any ... any idea yet ... applicable to any sort, past, future, present, internal or external, gross or subtle, inferior and superior , far or near, all consciousness, after lifelike observe with intelligence chief: "this is not mine, this is not me, this is not my self", evidence detachment prime liberation. Until this level, this Aggivessana, monks are level Arhat, taints took advantage, the chronic practice, the thing to do was to do was put the burden down, the target has been achieved, organic fetters were the exception, be freed right knowledge. With such freedom of mind, this Aggivessana, monks three French supreme achievements: Ants supreme, supreme director, Liberation supreme. Freed thus this Aggivessana, he just homage, respect, worship, offerings to the Tathagata: "Bhagavan was enlightened, he preached to enlightenment. Bhagavan was subdued, he preached to subdue. Bhagavan was calm, he preached to calm. Bhagavan has passed, he preached to pass. Bhagavan saw Nirvana, He preached to Nibbana ". Heard that, Niganthaputta prospectus with Bhagavan: - Venerable Gotama, we really blunt, we really are reckless. We have dared to use words with polemical venerable Gotama! This venerable Gotama, it can also have the security of a mad elephant fight, but can not have the safety of a fight venerable Gotama! This venerable Gotama, it can also have the security of a flaming fire fight, but can not have the safety of a fight venerable Gotama! This venerable Gotama, it can also have the security of a fight with fierce snake, but can not have the safety of a man fighting with venerable Gotama! Venerable Gotama, we really blunt, we really are reckless. We have dared to think, to use words with polemical venerable Gotama! Mong Ton Gotama accepted, tomorrow my meal with them, monks! Bhagavan quietly accepted. Niganthaputta Saccaka Then, after knowing Bhagavan said yes, immediately said to the Licchavi: - The venerable Licchavis listen to me. Recluse Gotama tomorrow are invited to eat with them monks. Please give me what you think is trendy. Then the Licchavi then, after you have accomplished for the night brought about five hundred parts Niganthaputta Saccaka rice cooked with milk offerings. Niganthaputta Saccaka Then, in his garden, to prepare hearty dishes, kind of hard and soft types, and then for the news hour for Bhagavan: - Venerable Gotama, now it's time. Rice has finished preparing. Then Bhagavan morning robes, holding the bowl y, go to Niganthaputta Saccaka garden, after arriving, he was prepared to sit on the seat with them monks. Then Niganthaputta Saccaka, manually servant hearty dishes and blankets solid sort them monks, led by Lord Buddha. Then Bhagavan said Niganthaputta after meal was finished, left hand bowl, and he took a chair and sat down other low side. After sitting down on one side, Niganthaputta Saccaka venerable sir: - This venerable Gotama, in the generosity of this, if there is merit and merit-earth, hope that your generosity will be happy. - Hey Aggivessana, there will be (merit) to those who give alms, to the offerings as He deserves, though He is not no greed, no pitch is not, is not no delusion; will have (merit) for He, the Aggivessana, for the offerings as I deserve, and I had no desire, no courts, no delusion. PRIMARY BUSINESS SACCAKA, END OF THIRD fifteen.END=NAM MO SAKYAMUNI BUDDHA.( 3 TIMES ).VIETNAMESE TRANSLATE ENGLISH BY=THICH CHAN TANH.THE MIND OF ENLIGHTENMENT.WORLD VIETNAMESE BUDDHIST ORDER=VIETNAMESE BUDDHIST NUN=GOLDEN LOTUS MONASTERY=AUSTRALIA,SYDNEY.3/4/2016.MHDT.